Dale 
			Sprusansky: 
			All right.  Thank 
			you for being patient with us. 
			We’re having a break after this next panelist speaks. 
			So I ask you to please remain seated as we continue along 
			with this morning’s program.
			As I mentioned earlier, we had one speaker change today, and that is 
			that Columbia Law professor Katherine Franke, who was scheduled to 
			speak, came down with pneumonia. 
			But no need to worry, because we have the wonderful Maria 
			LaHood here to take her place. 
			Maria will be addressing an immensely important topic. 
			As many of you know, there has recently been a rash of 
			anti-BDS legislation introduced and passed at both the state and 
			federal levels.  These 
			anti-BDS bills have raised concerns about the First Amendment rights 
			of Palestinian solidarity activists. 
			They have also kept the lives of lawyers such as Maria very 
			busy.
			Maria is deputy legal director at the Center for Constitutional 
			Rights.  She has worked 
			tirelessly to defend the rights of those who face legal pushback for 
			challenging Israel’s policies. 
			She has defended Olympia Food Co-op board members for 
			boycotting Israeli goods, represented Prof. Steven Salaita, who was 
			terminated from a tenured position for tweets critical of Israel. 
			She also works closely with Palestine Legal to support 
			students whose speech is being suppressed for their Palestinian 
			advocacy.
			For those of you who were here last year, you will remember her 
			brilliant overview of the challenges faced by Palestinian advocates 
			on campus.  This year she 
			will be discussing the recent legislation that threatens First 
			Amendment rights of Palestinian activists, and the legal challenges 
			thereto.  We couldn’t be 
			happier to have her with us here today, and are so happy she agreed 
			to join us the last second.
			Recent 
			Legislation that Threatens First Amendment Rights of Palestinian 
			Solidary Activists and the Legal Challenges Thereto
			
Maria 
			LaHood: 
			Thank you very much. 
			Thanks to IRmep and the American Educational Trust for 
			inviting me to speak.  
			It’s an honor to be here with you all.
			Israel has declared that BDS is the biggest threat it faces. 
			As mentioned earlier, it has recently banned BDS supporters 
			from even entering the country. 
			Boycott, divestment and sanctions is a nonviolent, 
			time-honored tactic to demand basic rights, such as equality. 
			Proponents of BDS simply demand that Israel comply with 
			international law.  Yet, 
			tens of millions of dollars are being spent to combat BDS; to combat 
			a peaceful means of seeking social change and respect for human 
			rights.  Students for 
			Justice in Palestine groups have been active all over the country 
			educating their campuses. 
			This is despite being maligned as uncivil, divisive, 
			anti-Semitic, or supportive of terrorism; despite being investigated 
			and disciplined when they protest; despite the bureaucratic barriers 
			they face when they try to form a club or bring in a speaker to talk 
			about BDS.
			Recently the administration of Fordham in New York rejected 
			students’ application to even form an SJP, stating that it was 
			polarizing, and that calling for BDS is a barrier to open dialogue, 
			and claiming that SJP groups at other schools have engaged in 
			misconduct.  Each of 
			these reasons violates basic principles of free speech and free 
			association, not to mention the university’s mission to foster 
			intellectual and moral development and open inquiry.
			Despite widespread efforts to suppress activism for Palestinian 
			rights, it is on the rise on campuses and off. 
			The U.S. Campaign for Palestinian Rights has a list of 
			170-plus United States BDS victories. 
			Students have passed divestment resolutions on campuses all 
			over the country.  
			Numerous churches and foundations have divested from companies 
			facilitating the occupation. 
			And the culture and academic boycott continues to grow. 
			Six NFL players recently pulled out of an Israeli-sponsored 
			government trip to Israel.
			As we know, when there’s no defense, the tactic of a bully is to 
			silence, malign or intimidate the speaker. 
			According to the Emergency Committee for Israel, which has 
			supported the nationwide anti-BDS legislative effort, legislating 
			against BDS tells its proponents, “while you were doing your campus 
			antics, the grownups were in the state legislatures passing laws 
			that make your cause improbable.” 
			Thus far, 16 states have passed anti-BDS legislation of one 
			form or another.  The 
			Israeli Foreign Ministry, in cooperation with the Israel advocacy 
			organizations, is reportedly behind the anti-BDS laws. 
			Several of these laws establish a public blacklist of 
			entities that boycott Israel and prevent the state from investing in 
			them or contracting with them.
			The first such law was passed in Illinois in 2015. 
			It blacklists foreign companies that boycott and requires the 
			state’s pension fund to divest from them. 
			Florida and Arizona passed laws to create blacklists of 
			companies and other entities that boycott, and the state is 
			prevented from contracting with them, as well as investing in them. 
			Maryland currently has similar blacklist bills pending which 
			also apply to natural persons and non-governmental organizations, 
			meaning that individuals, churches, foundations, trade unions and 
			other groups could be blacklisted for boycotting or divesting from 
			corporations complicit in Israel’s violations.
			The bills are supported by the Jewish Community Relations Council, 
			but there’s a large, well-organized broad-based coalition fighting 
			them, so they’re lingering—and in Maryland, the legislative session 
			ends on April 10.  
			Activists had mobilized against similar bills in New York, so 
			Governor [Andrew] Cuomo bypassed the legislative process, which he 
			called “tedious,” and issued an executive order to create a 
			blacklist of institutions and companies that the state must divest 
			from.  Incidentally, the 
			executive order that Governor Cuomo signed was signed on the day of 
			the Celebrate Israel Day parade in New York.
			The American Jewish Committee lobbied for the New York law and 
			Governor Cuomo has been named co-chair of AJC’s Governors [United] 
			Against BDS initiative.  
			Thus far, the state blacklists that exist in Illinois, Florida, and 
			New York have only named foreign corporations. 
			Not to say that others couldn’t be added in Florida and New 
			York.  Colorado has an 
			anti-BDS list that is completely blank, and Arizona’s list is due 
			out April 1st.  So 
			although the blacklist tactic is pure McCarthy, the actual reach 
			thus far is quite limited—but the chill can be much broader. 
			Although New York already has a blacklist, earlier this month 
			the New York State Senate fast-tracked three bills aimed at 
			silencing advocates of Palestinian rights, with no committee hearing 
			and no opportunity for public input or debate, and they passed with 
			overwhelming support.
			One bill is like the executive order in New York, but expands the 
			blacklist to include individuals and nonprofits. 
			One bill would prohibit state funding for student 
			organizations at state or city universities, or community colleges, 
			that support BDS campaigns against Israel. 
			The other would take away state funding from colleges that 
			use state aid to fund any academic organization that advocates a 
			boycott of Israel.  Several 
			academic institutions have endorsed the call for a boycott of 
			Israeli academic institutions. 
			In 2013, when the American Studies Association did so, 
			legislatures around the country proposed bills similar to this one, 
			but a public outcry prevented them from passing. 
			Companion bills have not yet been introduced in the New York 
			Assembly for these three bills, but we’re on the lookout.
			California passed a law requiring prospective contractors to certify 
			under penalty of perjury that they’re not violating state 
			anti-discrimination laws; and, if they have a policy against a 
			foreign nation, that they don’t use it to discriminate.
			 The bills had originally 
			explicitly prohibited contracting with companies that boycott 
			Israel, but because of the mobilization against them and 
			constitutional concerns, they were substantially revised. 
			But the law still names no nation other than Israel and no 
			discrimination other than against Jewish individuals under the 
			“pretext of a constitutionally protected boycott or protest of the 
			state of Israel.”
			A few states—Virginia, South Carolina, Massachusetts and 
			Tennessee—as well as Congress, have introduced bills to expand the 
			definition of anti-Semitism to include criticism of Israel for 
			purposes of determining whether someone is discriminated against. 
			These bills adopt the definition of anti-Semitism that’s used 
			by the United States State Department to monitor human rights 
			violations around the world, which describes anti-Semitism relative 
			to Israel as demonizing Israel, applying a double standard to 
			Israel, and delegitimizing Israel.
			In South Carolina, the House passed a bill this week requiring 
			colleges and universities to use this anti-Semitism definition in 
			deciding whether their policies are violated, to the praise of the 
			Zionist Organization of America. 
			Activists recently defeated similar Virginia bills which 
			would have amended Virginia’s Human Rights Act to include the 
			definition.  The 
			Massachusetts bill was also defeated. 
			These bills are problematic on many levels, including that 
			the distorted definition undermines the fight against true 
			anti-Semitism—not to mention their sole focus on anti-Semitism to 
			the exclusion of other forms of bigotry, such as the rise of 
			Islamaphobia.
			In December the United States Senate passed by unanimous consent the 
			Anti-Semitism Awareness Act, which would have required the 
			Department of Education to consider the State Department definition 
			of anti-Semitism in determining whether a university had 
			discriminated in violation of Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 
			1964.  It died in the 
			House, but it certainly could be introduced again.
			There is a current bill in Congress, the Combating BDS Act, 
			supported by AIPAC and introduced by Senator [Marco] Rubio, that 
			attempts to nullify the argument that state anti-BDS laws should be 
			struck down because they’re pre-empted by federal law. 
			But the main argument against these state laws is not that 
			they are pre-empted, but that they violate the First Amendment. 
			
			There was also the 2015 Trade Promotion Authority Law, which 
			requires the U.S. government to discourage BDS or trade barriers 
			against Israel in trade negotiations with European Union countries. 
			And who knows what else is coming at the federal level?
			Yesterday the Senate confirmed David Friedman as U.S. ambassador to 
			Israel, 52-46.  Friedman 
			has taken the position that the U.S. should view BDS as inherently 
			anti-Semitic and take strong measures, both diplomatic and 
			legislative, to thwart it.  But 
			for all the anti-BDS bills that have passed, many more have been 
			defeated, showing the power of mobilization: that organizing, and 
			writing and calling, and meeting with your representatives, makes a 
			difference.  Legislators 
			have heard concerns that the bills are unconstitutional, but they’ve 
			also heard their constituents’ passionate views about Palestinian 
			rights.
			It’s important to remember that none of the anti-BDS laws take away 
			your right to boycott or to advocate for BDS, nor can they under the 
			U.S. Constitution.  They 
			do, however, punish expression of a particular viewpoint—BDS against 
			Israel—which is unconstitutional. 
			Under the First Amendment, the government cannot pass a law 
			that abridges our freedom of speech or discriminates based on 
			viewpoint.  It cannot 
			regulate our speech based on its content or message. 
			In a case stemming from the boycott of white businesses in 
			Mississippi in the 1960s to demand racial equality, the Supreme 
			Court made clear that nonviolent boycotts to bring about political, 
			social or economic change are protected under the First Amendment. 
			Moreover, the government may not deny a benefit to someone for 
			exercising their constitutional rights. 
			
			We must demand that our state and local lawmakers protect our 
			federal right to protest and dissent, and reject these 
			unconstitutional laws.  
			And when they do pass, we must not let them chill our protected 
			speech.  But it’s even 
			more critical that we resist the distraction of focusing on our 
			speech rights in the U.S., and instead use the fact that our 
			legislators are actually talking about BDS against Israel, as an 
			opportunity for us to talk about Palestinian rights and freedom.
			We need to defend our right to engage in BDS, but we must demand an 
			end to the occupation, to apartheid, to settlements, to the closure 
			of Gaza, to attacks on human rights defenders in the occupied 
			Palestinian territory who are targeted, arrested, detained, 
			threatened and harassed for peacefully protesting, for seeking 
			justice and accountability.  It’s 
			also essential to be uniting struggles. 
			In addition to anti-BDS laws, and in response to recent 
			protests across the United States, a recent wave of anti-protest 
			bills have been introduced in state legislatures which increase 
			fines and impose jail time for protesters. 
			In response to Standing Rock protests, North Dakota 
			introduced bills that would exempt drivers from liability if they 
			injured or killed protesters on a roadway, as long as they didn’t do 
			it intentionally.
			We need to keep making connections between struggles. 
			We need to keep making connections between settler 
			colonialism, state violence, and racism in this country and in 
			Israel.  The struggle for 
			Palestinian liberation is tied to all struggles against oppression. 
			As Martin Luther King, Jr. said, “Injustice anywhere is a 
			threat to justice everywhere.” 
			He also described the pivotal Montgomery bus boycott against 
			segregation in the U.S. as a refusal to cooperate with an evil 
			system.
			All over the world, including in the U.S., people are increasingly 
			refusing to be complicit in Israel’s violations of international 
			law, and are demanding the same of our government officials. 
			It’s not simply a matter of our right to dissent; it is our 
			moral duty.  Cooperation 
			with the occupation, with apartheid, is complicity. 
			BDS helped end apartheid in South Africa, and it will 
			eventually do the same in Israel. 
			The wave of anti-BDS legislation just shows the power of the 
			movement for Palestinian rights has to expose Israel’s violations of 
			international law, and eventually help bring them to an end. 
			Thank you. [APPLAUSE]
			Question and 
			Answer
Dale 
			Sprusanky: 
			Thank you very much. 
			One question we have here is, since many of these bills are 
			so very clearly in violation of the First Amendment, why are they 
			still standing, and what is the process to get them taken down, and 
			how long will that take?
Maria 
			LaHood: 
			Well, we have not yet brought a case to challenge them. 
			We are thinking about the most strategic case to bring, but 
			just because they haven’t yet been challenged in court doesn’t mean 
			they’re any less unconstitutional. 
			They are unconstitutional.
Dale 
			Sprusanky: 
			So the people in favor of it, when asked, given these issues 
			with the First Amendment and told about them, how did they respond? 
			What is their defense? 
			How did they argue that it is, in fact, not a violation of 
			First Amendment rights?
Maria 
			LaHood: 
			I think some of the claims are that BDS is inherently 
			anti-Semitic, which it is not. 
			I don’t fully understand the arguments, because it is 
			unconstitutional and it is clearly a violation of free speech. 
			I think it is not so much an argument that it’s 
			constitutional, they are appealing to legislators and arguing that 
			it is a fight against anti-Semitism, which it is not. 
			There are many ways to fight anti-Semitism, and stifling 
			criticism of Israel is not one of them.
Dale 
			Sprusanky: 
			We have a practical question here: 
			What are some ways that the average person can help fight 
			against anti-BDS laws?
Maria 
			LaHood: 
			Well, I think get involved wherever you are. 
			Find out what’s happening in your state and in your county. 
			There are also county bills, or anti-BDS county bills, as 
			well.  Find out what you 
			can do.  Find out who’s 
			working on them.  You can 
			always contact the Center for Constitutional Rights, that’s 
			ccrjustice.org, or Palestine Legal at palestinelegal.org, or whoever 
			is active in your community. 
			Again, talk to your legislators. 
			Educate yourself.  
			Educate them.  Fight 
			against them.
Dale 
			Sprusanky: 
			One question here, I guess predicting: 
			Are there any more bills being proposed other than the ones 
			that have been introduced so far that people should be aware of?
Maria 
			LaHood: 
			Yeah.  You can 
			actually go to righttoboycott.org, and there’s a map of where laws 
			have been introduced all over the country, and that’s another way 
			you can find out what’s happening in your state, and get involved. 
			There continue to be laws introduced in the legislature, and 
			because there’s this Governors [United] Against BDS initiative, 
			there could also be more executive orders like the one in New York.
Dale 
			Sprusanky: 
			One question here, how do you counter the argument that anti-BDS 
			legislation does not abridge freedom of speech, but only certain 
			areas of conduct?
			Maria LaHood:  
			
			Certain kinds of conduct?
Dale 
			Sprusanky: 
			Yeah.
Maria 
			LaHood: 
			In the case I mentioned out of the 1960s,
			NAACP vs. Claiborne 
			Hardware, a boycott can be considered more than speech. 
			It is conduct.  
			But that boycott, a nonviolent boycott for social change, is 
			protected by the First Amendment. 
			Perhaps it is possible that there is discriminatory conduct, 
			obviously, that can be precluded by law. 
			But BDS against Israel, in response to the call by 
			Palestinian civil society, which seeks compliance with international 
			law and respect for human rights, is not discriminatory.
Dale 
			Sprusanky: 
			One other question. 
			Have you seen, since these laws have been introduced, any 
			sort of decline in activity, especially among students? 
			You have the Canary Mission and all that stuff. 
			People are wondering if that has had an impact, especially on 
			young people.
Maria 
			LaHood: 
			Unfortunately, there is a chill. 
			People misunderstand the laws. 
			People hear that BDS laws are penalizing BDS or criminalizing 
			BDS.  There have been 
			incidents where students have not used school funds to pay for a 
			speaker who supports BDS, because they fear reprisal or they fear 
			defunding.  There are 
			concerns among church groups. 
			
			In New York, for example, there are church groups who run 
			pre-kindergarten schools that are paid for by the state. 
			So there are concerns that, well, if we endorse BDS or if 
			we’re affiliated with the larger church that engages in BDS, what 
			does this mean for our state funding? 
			There are legitimate concerns. 
			Again, like I said, thus far the blacklists are naming 
			foreign companies only, in part, I think, because of the increased 
			constitutional concerns about limiting the free speech of U.S.-based 
			corporations.
Dale 
			Sprusanky: 
			There’s kind of a technical question here: 
			Legally speaking, is there a difference between BDS action 
			against Israel and BDS action against companies that operate in the 
			West Bank?
Maria 
			LaHood: 
			I personally don’t think so. 
			Some of the laws do expressly include boycotts against Israel 
			and boycotts against Israel-occupied territory. 
			There are distinctions that people make based on settlements, 
			but I believe that there are international law violations across the 
			board, so I personally don’t think there is a difference.
Dale 
			Sprusanky: 
			This involves the law of another country, but I’ll throw it 
			at you and see how comfortable you are answering it. 
			Can you elaborate on the new law that the Israeli Knesset 
			passed that targets BDS activists?
Maria 
			LaHood: 
			I haven’t looked at a translation of the law in Israel. 
			My understanding is that it prevents BDS supporters who need 
			a visa from entering the country. 
			I’ve heard that maybe to get into the West Bank, if you don’t 
			need a visa, perhaps it will not preclude your entry. 
			I do not know, I haven’t looked at it. 
			But the basic thrust of the law is to discourage BDS 
			supporters from going to Israel and to Palestine. 
			This isn’t the only law in Israel. 
			Israel has also passed a tort law that provides for damages 
			from any BDS actions if they can be shown.
			They’ve also cracked down on NGOs who get most of their funding from 
			foreign entities, which largely impacts organizations that are 
			fighting Israel’s violations. 
			You’ll hear later about crackdowns on Palestinian rights 
			activism in the UK.  
			France has a law that has criminalized BDS, that will soon be before 
			the European Court of Human Rights. 
			It is part of a global trend to suppress speech and suppress 
			advocacy on behalf of Palestinian rights.
Dale 
			Sprusanky: 
			A question here, a general question: Are Israelis more 
			worried about image or the economic threat of BDS? 
			
Maria 
			LaHood: 
			Yeah, I don’t know what Israelis are more worried about. 
			I think at this point, where we are in this movement, is that 
			the economic threat is not yet so serious, but the delegitimization 
			threat is huge.  The 
			isolation threat is huge. 
			The notion of a pariah state is, I think, what is the threat. 
			Sort of dismantling the international support for Israel, 
			especially the United States support for Israel, is key. 
			I think at some point the economic concerns may become more 
			serious, but right now it is the fact that it is calling out 
			Israel’s violations.
			You mentioned that I represent former board members of the Olympia 
			Food Co-op, a tiny little—22,000 members—co-op in Olympia, 
			Washington, where Rachel Corrie was from, [that] boycotted Israeli 
			goods and took nine or so things off the shelves from Israel, and 
			they were sued for that.  
			So it’s not about the economic impact.
			 It’s about what it says about 
			Israel.
Dale 
			Sprusanky: 
			A question concerning a local issue here: Maryland state has 
			introduced an anti-BDS bill. 
			We have a very strong team that will be fighting against it. 
			Can you tell us what’s happening next if it passes? 
			I guess some advice for the Maryland contingent here.
Maria 
			LaHood: 
			Well, we’re hoping it doesn’t pass. 
			There are hints that it will not pass based on what’s 
			happened in the legislature, so we will see. 
			But that is one, especially because it includes individuals 
			and nonprofits, that would be very good for a challenge.
Dale 
			Sprusanky: 
			I think we’ve run through a heavy set of questions here. 
			Thank you very much.